Comments on: Anti-Spam Update - Knuj0n and Boxbe http://cleverhack.com/2006/11/15/anti-spam-update-knuj0n-and-boxbe/ A Blog About Technology, Search Engine Optimization (SEO), Internet Marketing And More. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:36:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: SW http://cleverhack.com/2006/11/15/anti-spam-update-knuj0n-and-boxbe/#comment-30687 Tue, 19 Dec 2006 00:59:03 +0000 http://cleverhack.com/2006/11/15/anti-spam-update-knuj0n-and-boxbe/#comment-30687 I have to agree -- the challenge response system is also a nightmare for mailing lists, or any other valid bulk mail. I participate on a few mailing lists where someone with a challenge-response email signed up but apparently didn't understand whitelisting... and every single email to the list was matched by his automated response to it. Many lists members tried going through the validation process, contacting him otherwise, etc., but nothing worked. It went on for months. I'm personally more interested in automating personal responses to spam, as in the BlueFrog approach, but with clients that aren't dependant on unreliable central processing. I have to agree — the challenge response system is also a nightmare for mailing lists, or any other valid bulk mail. I participate on a few mailing lists where someone with a challenge-response email signed up but apparently didn’t understand whitelisting… and every single email to the list was matched by his automated response to it. Many lists members tried going through the validation process, contacting him otherwise, etc., but nothing worked. It went on for months.

I’m personally more interested in automating personal responses to spam, as in the BlueFrog approach, but with clients that aren’t dependant on unreliable central processing.

]]> by: Richi Jennings http://cleverhack.com/2006/11/15/anti-spam-update-knuj0n-and-boxbe/#comment-27321 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:02:41 +0000 http://cleverhack.com/2006/11/15/anti-spam-update-knuj0n-and-boxbe/#comment-27321 While economic solutions to spam are an interesting idea, Boxbe is a terrible implementation. It's a challenge/response scheme. Like all of these things, there's a fundamental flaw: you can't reply to spammers -- replies go to innocent 3rd parties because spammers forge the return address. In other words, this actually creates more spam. More discussion at <a href="http://richi.co.uk/blog/2006/12/boxbe-another-cr-spamhaus.html" rel="nofollow">http://richi.co.uk/</a> While economic solutions to spam are an interesting idea, Boxbe is a terrible implementation. It’s a challenge/response scheme. Like all of these things, there’s a fundamental flaw: you can’t reply to spammers — replies go to innocent 3rd parties because spammers forge the return address.

In other words, this actually creates more spam.

More discussion at http://richi.co.uk/

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